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    I tried Oxy/Dawn and it didn't work well at all.

    And even using NoToil cleaner, every so often the filters get a sludge-type build up so I'll wash the filters in Simple Green, then wash with Dawn or NoToil cleaner, then rinse with water.
    Interesting. Were you using red or green? In what must be close to 15 years of experience with No-Toil, I've never seen any build up at all, or anything that did not come out when you wash the filters.

    My filter cleaning method:
    1. Toss filters in top loading washing machine. I usually do 3 at a time.
    2. 1/4 cup of No-Toil detergent
    3. 1 scoop of Tide (for normal dirt)
    4. 1 scoop of Oxy Clean (to stretch the more costly No-Toil detergent)
    5. Start wash cycle
    6. Go post on KTMTalk, watch ESPN, enjoy life.
    7. When wash cycle is done, remove pristine clean filters from washer and let them air dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brush View Post
    Interesting. Were you using red or green? In what must be close to 15 years of experience with No-Toil, I've never seen any build up at all, or anything that did not come out when you wash the filters.

    My filter cleaning method:
    1. Toss filters in top loading washing machine. I usually do 3 at a time.
    2. 1/4 cup of No-Toil detergent
    3. 1 scoop of Tide (for normal dirt)
    4. 1 scoop of Oxy Clean (to stretch the more costly No-Toil detergent)
    5. Start wash cycle
    6. Go post on KTMTalk, watch ESPN, enjoy life.
    7. When wash cycle is done, remove pristine clean filters from washer and let them air dry.
    Red.

    I asked here about it and it was RickH who told me about SimpleGreen. Think he suggested it was the Notoil being incompatible with the factory oil that was causing it.

    http://ktmtalk.com/showthread.php?54...ghlight=sludge

    I use OEM filters.

    Pour some NoToil powder in a bucket...that's the only the thing the bucket gets used for is washing filters.

    Add water, mix then wash filters. Rinse with water in a sink I have outside, let air dry.

    I have 4 filters and seems like I need to do this once every 6 months. Matter of fact it's about time...I'll try and take a pic of the sludge.
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    Default Re: Air filter oil

    Quote Originally Posted by DonS View Post
    Red.

    I asked here about it and it was RickH who told me about SimpleGreen. Think he suggested it was the Notoil being incompatible with the factory oil that was causing it.

    http://ktmtalk.com/showthread.php?54...ghlight=sludge

    I use OEM filters.

    Pour some NoToil powder in a bucket...that's the only the thing the bucket gets used for is washing filters.

    Add water, mix then wash filters. Rinse with water in a sink I have outside, let air dry.

    I have 4 filters and seems like I need to do this once every 6 months. Matter of fact it's about time...I'll try and take a pic of the sludge.
    Not sure what you mean by "factory oil". There's often plenty of sludge on the dirty filter when I take it out of the bike after a dusty couple of days; but nothing that does not come out when I wash the filters as per normal. I use red + TwinAir filters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brush View Post
    Not sure what you mean by "factory oil". There's often plenty of sludge on the dirty filter when I take it out of the bike after a dusty couple of days; but nothing that does not come out when I wash the filters as per normal. I use red + TwinAir filters.
    Factory oil = whatever is all over the OEM filters when I first open the package. Some were almost oiled enough to use, some not. Although I don't know exactly what type of oil it is. It's basically clear maybe a slight tint of brown.

    This has me wondering about this all over again...
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    Interesting. New TwinAir filters don't have anything on them.
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    Said 4 earlier...but I have 5 filters...all OEM.

    3 are dirty, 1 clean and just oiled 1 for a ride.

    Weird...one (the clean one) was noticeably heavier than the other 4.

    Also IIRC not every filter gets sludge.

    Got some whodoo voodoo stuff going on.

    Wonder if I'm not using enough NoToil powder...been following the directions. Read the bottle and it said (IIRC) a 1/4 cup mixed with 3-4" of water in a bucket. Seems kind of abstract.
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    Default Re: Air filter oil

    I use olive oil and carry a head of lettuce and a tomato in the air box in case i get hungry. Why did i open this thread?

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    Rotella works on the salad too.................

    Why did i open this thread?
    Because you wanted to learn something?
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    Been riding 35 years, many of those years used bel ray. More recently I did switch to the green no toil and love it. Main reason for change for me is ease of cleaning and not working with and storing extra gas. I am a bit crazy about air filters, have several and always have a fresh one every ride. There is no doubt bel ray has a tackier feel to the hand, however I believe no toil is just as effective for the job, I always check carefully and have never had any dirt in the boot. Overall multiple options that work, really just personal preference.

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    Default Re: Air filter oil

    Quote Originally Posted by brush View Post
    I too have a super easy cleaning tub
    Same here. I'll do 15-20 at a time with a few scoops of Oxyclean or No Toil cleaner. Inspect them after the wash, toss any that are questionable, service up several and start using them again. Ran them on very hot, but not sanitary setting. Too much heat will kill the glued seams. Run a load of shop towels after on high heat with oxy and a little bleach just in case there's any residue.
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