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    Quote Originally Posted by jmg343 View Post
    I did the same. Big 4 stroke to a new 300. Couldnít be happier and it works for me. I havenít ridden a 250, but I kind of feel like the 300 leaves more room for error. I think mistakes would be more evident and harder to recover from on the 250 than the 300. That 300 torque can be a real life saver at times. Again, I havenít ridden a 250 so I could be off base here.
    I agree about the 300 leaving more room for error, all else equal in rider skill. BUT, there's another way to look at that. When you have less margin for error, you learn the necessity to avoid those errors. That's why people say you learn so much riding a small bore like a 125, 150, or 200. It really makes you stay cognizant of your body position, throttle/clutch control, line selection, etc. Spending time on a 200 was one of the best things I did for my skill in climbing nasty technical hills and how to really read and "attack" different obstacles/terrain and make lightning quick decisions. And I could bring those same skills and apply them to riding bigger bikes I've had since, 300, 250s, and even my 500, in technical terrain. I'm all for the 300 as people's do it all, primary bike, but anyone who's never ridden something smaller owes it to themselves to get some extended seat time on a lower displacement bike, IMO
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    I disagree that the 300 leaves more room for error. But there again, it's a riding style thing. Yeah, if you're lugging it around a gear or two high, it does give you more room for error. But if you ride it in the "correct" gear for the terrain, it can get you in trouble faster when you twist the loud handle hard. That's how I ride a bike for the most part, so a 300 is dicey for me. And it wears me out quicker, too. I just can't bring myself to ride it like most 300 guys do. I find I tend to ride slower when I lug like that.
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    I guess youíre right Jeb. I only say it leaves more room for error because of my ďluggerĒ riding style. If I screw up on a hill, I can rely on the torque to just tractor my fat butt up the hill whereas I feel in the same situation, on a 250, my mistake would be way more evident and the end result would be my stalling and having to restart or reattempt the hill all together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeb View Post
    I disagree that the 300 leaves more room for error. But there again, it's a riding style thing. Yeah, if you're lugging it around a gear or two high, it does give you more room for error. But if you ride it in the "correct" gear for the terrain, it can get you in trouble faster when you twist the loud handle hard. That's how I ride a bike for the most part, so a 300 is dicey for me. And it wears me out quicker, too. I just can't bring myself to ride it like most 300 guys do. I find I tend to ride slower when I lug like that.
    Agree to disagree on the error part. The way I see it is a 300 lugs better down low with more torque, so when you get kicked off your line, feet off the pegs, off the trail, whatever, that's a less detrimental error on a 300 than 250. On a 300 you probably don't even need to downshift and can just chug your way back into line running a gear or 2 high, and dragging your feet. 250, depending how steep or nasty the trail is, you may well need to stop, or make a drastic maneuver to get at least your left foot up to downshift so that the bike can motor forward with authority. Maybe it's just semantics at this point, but that to me says you can be less on your game lugging a 300 and not pay for it, than you could in the same situation on a 250. Again, rider skill being equal. If you're a good enough rider that you just wouldn't make the mistake in the first place then it doesn't matter.

    I do feel the same about riding the "correct" gear and it being a bit more of a gamble/exhausting on a 300, which is why I'm a 250 guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus_Flat View Post
    Agree to disagree on the error part.
    Sounds good. Lots of variables go into that one.
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    I've had 5 KTM 250 2-strokes & 3 300s, + some other brands. I like both; when I have a 250, sometimes I wish I had a 300. When I have a 300, sometimes I wish I had a 250. But I can ride only 1 at a time, so I have to pick & I swap back & forth. Wish they'd make a 275....
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    I like my 250 but my next bike Iím probably going 300 just to see what the hypes about lol. My 250 has the SX head and CDI with vforce reeds, 2.1 silencer and 51 tooth rear sprocket running red spring also. Power wise I donít think itís far off from a 300 and it winds up very quick and feels super light. Buddy of mine has a 19 300 tpi and rented a 250 tpi out west last month and says it was a blast and if he didnít have the new 300 heíd buy a 250. Said the 250 had plenty of power and he probably weighs 250+
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    Picked up a '19 250xc carb model with big rebate, couldn't find a 300 locally and you don't usually see the 300's discounted $1,500 like this was. Wanted to try something completely different, the aer forks, linkage and 250 with no lights, just bare bones fit the bill (compared to my xc-w's), it's feeling small and light, determined not to load a bunch of heavy stuff on it. Turns really great, not having the extra 43 cc's is not as exciting but it's still fun. In general I'd say if you can handle and use the 300's power, it's the better bike, especially if it's your only bike. But the 300 can be too much at times. A newer rider is better/safer on the 250... can see this being a great play bike and I'll be faster in some situations I think. Just need to get it dialed in and making a little more power. It's a little too tame stock for me right now. Red power valve, head, jetting and then let's see.
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    I am 100% faster on a 300 for about a hour, then at a fast pace the 300 starts sucking the life out of me and the mistakes start happening. My good buddie who has bought 2 of my 300's picked up my 11 250xc. He at first said it felt slow, then after riding it a few days he was asking me to detune it! I think once the stigma of it being "only" a 250 wore off he realized he was riding faster than he had in a long time. I may pick up another bike and it will be for sure a 250. I would also trade a very well set up 150xcw for a 250xc. I love the 150 but for the longer road rides I have been doing the 250 just fits better! CJ
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