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    245 geared out, 85-95 Nmm

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    I tried to follow the golden rule many times and it always resulted in too firm spring. The frame geometry on my '06 525 was great for straight line stability but now that I switched to my '14 500, I realize how much better the new frame turns, has something to do with steering head angle. 6mm to 10mm preload max puts you in the range. Then you should start raising the forks in the triple clamps and messing with preload on the forks but it's a trade off, you raise forks, you lose straight line stability and vice versa. Front tire choice can make a big difference. Rear tire matters too, you don't want it to grip too much, it needs to power slide a bit. Loved my 525, too bad I raced/rode it into the ground. The guy I sold it to was super happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drinkn_buddy View Post
    245 geared out, 85-95 Nmm
    with the progressive rate spring, you will have a harder time hitting static sag numbers at proper rider sag. I ran a 9.2 SR spring on my 05 200 and I weigh about identical to you geared up. I would venture a guess that spring is too soft till it gets deep in the travel, ramps up.
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    Hey bud, whereabouts in the Reno area do you ride? I JUST put a Goldentyre Fatty on the front of my '06 525 on the recommendation of Motosource and was hoping it'd help with the front feeling jittery on the looser uphill areas in Spanish Springs. If you're still seeing issues then I'll have to start tackling the front suspension and will be VERY interested in knowing what you came up with.
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    Iím in south Reno and the last ill fated ride was in the hills and valleys west of Damonte and up to Virginia City. Iíve got my suspension done, replaced my forks with an old set from a previous 300. It tracks good, just canít trust it turning. The last straw was loosing the front on a loose uphill section and breaking my hand.

    if I canít figure it out, itís gone

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    I've been up there once. We put in at the end of Rattlesnake and ended up on Lousetown road. Decent riding.

    Sorry to hear about your hand. When I first got this bike, the front would jump around like crazy on the rocky uphills. The previous owner had it setup for a 230 pound rider. I haven't changed the front springs to adjust the sag but just dropping the compression and rebound a few clicks seemed to help out a bunch. That plus this Goldentyre Fatty seem to help it track MUCH better around here. My only issue on the hills now is keeping the front down.

    I'm still getting used to this vs. my 2005 CRF450X. Very different beast but so far I'm loving it for around here. If you want to try a different bike to make sure it's not just yours, hit me up and we'll go for a ride somewhere around here. I'm pretty slow, but usually get there eventually.
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    The guys that revalved the suspension are sending me another progressive spring. My rear shock has too much pre load as earlier stated. So, the issue is the rear, not the front.

    engineerol, pm me and when I heal up we can do a big bike day

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