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    Default Re: 220 Ride Tires

    Quote Originally Posted by GlennE View Post
    Interesting. Although I found the 525 cheater is my least favorite gummy with the stiff sidewall. It just doesn't get the traction that AT81EX or Ibex do. However those have a soft sidewall and crown.
    Actually, I tested the stiffness of the sidewall on the 505, 525, Ibex, Recon, and the 220 Ride gummy. The Ibex was one of the stiffest. The 220 Ride was by far the most flimsy. All of those tires have fairly soft, flexible knobs. My forefinger and thumb durometer says the Ibex is the softest compound. The 525 and 220 felt identical. The 505 was next and the Recon was the hardest. The Ibex had the softest crown, followed by the 505, 525, Recon, and then the 220...if I remember correctly.

    I've never seen a tire with a gummy compound that had such a stiff crown and flimsy sidewall. It very well might work with a mousse but I'm not familiar enough with a mousse to know.
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    I haven't tested the 110 525 but the 120 525 sidewall is crazy thick and stiff. One of the stiffest 18" tires I've ever installed. Also one of the worst to install IMO. I tried 2 on different bikes and was very unimpressed. I liked the 505 a lot better other than the braking.

    The Ibex is way softer, thinner and more pliable IMO. I've run the 110 and 120. The AT81EX is softer yet, and probably the gummiest and most pliable tire, other than the Ix-09.
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    Default Re: 220 Ride Tires

    Quote Originally Posted by GlennE View Post
    I haven't tested the 110 525 but the 120 525 sidewall is crazy thick and stiff. One of the stiffest 18" tires I've ever installed. Also one of the worst to install IMO. I tried 2 on different bikes and was very unimpressed. I liked the 505 a lot better other than the braking.

    The Ibex is way softer, thinner and more pliable IMO. I've run the 110 and 120. The AT81EX is softer yet, and probably the gummiest and most pliable tire, other than the Ix-09.
    I compared the 120 525 side-by-side with the 120 Ibex. The sidewalls are similar in thickness and stiffness, but the Ibex has a lower profile. The Ibex crown is much softer than the 525. I ran a 110 525 for a couple of rides and I've had probably 3 or 4 505's on my bikes. In the 110 size of the 505 and 525 and I prefer the 505.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus73 View Post
    I compared the 120 525 side-by-side with the 120 Ibex. The sidewalls are similar in thickness and stiffness, but the Ibex has a lower profile. The Ibex crown is much softer than the 525. I ran a 110 525 for a couple of rides and I've had probably 3 or 4 505's on my bikes. In the 110 size of the 505 and 525 and I prefer the 505.
    Interesting

    I wonder if they changed either?

    I may try the 220 eventually. Always fun to try new stuff.
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    Default Re: 220 Ride Tires

    Quote Originally Posted by GlennE View Post
    Interesting

    I wonder if they changed either?

    I may try the 220 eventually. Always fun to try new stuff.
    120 vs 110 Shinkos are different animals. Even pattern is different on the 505s at least. I ran a 120 505 when they came out and quickly pulled it off for a 110. I think the sidewall on the 110s is thick, which is good, but not what I would call stiff. They work great Tubliss and mount without drama, even beat to hell they never bleed down.
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    Default Re: 220 Ride Tires

    just unpacked two of the 220 tires in 120 100 18 size. yep they are 55 durometer hardness at 80 deg f. The same size tusk is 64.5 durometer. 220 weighs 13.5 pounds,Tusk 14.5 pounds. The 220 has a wide knob spacing similar to the 555 Shinko and much more flexible carcas than the Tusk. My last 555 wore fast and had a few punctures between the big knob spacing. I would not be surprised if the 220 held up about the same. I will try the with the Tubliss. Looked for my used 18 inch foam but I forgot I gave that with a worn Ibex tire to a friend in need. That combo will work when almost bald.
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    Default Re: 220 Ride Tires

    Thanks for weights and duro.
    Assuming the "555" is a typo? Is it the 505 or 525 please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    just unpacked two of the 220 tires in 120 100 18 size. yep they are 55 durometer hardness at 80 deg f. The same size tusk is 64.5 durometer. 220 weighs 13.5 pounds,Tusk 14.5 pounds. The 220 has a wide knob spacing similar to the 555 Shinko and much more flexible carcas than the Tusk. My last 555 wore fast and had a few punctures between the big knob spacing. I would not be surprised if the 220 held up about the same. I will try the with the Tubliss. Looked for my used 18 inch foam but I forgot I gave that with a worn Ibex tire to a friend in need. That combo will work when almost bald.
    Thanks for the info.

    Keep us posted. I may have to order one up.
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    Default Re: 220 Ride Tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Clod View Post
    Thanks for weights and duro.
    Assuming the "555" is a typo? Is it the 505 or 525 please?

    DC
    He meant 525.
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    Default Re: 220 Ride Tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus73 View Post
    He meant 525.
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